


SARA PIPHER GILLIAM: Thanks for having us. MARY PIPHER: We're happy to be here, Michel. Mary is with us from Lincoln, Neb., and Sara is in Ontario, Canada.

And both Mary Pipher and Sara Pipher Gilliam, a former middle school teacher, join us now to talk about the updated book. And she wrote it with her own daughter, Sara Pipher Gilliam, who was a teenager when the original came out. And now, 25 years later, Mary Pipher has released an updated version of the book for girls and parents today. It spent the next three years on the New York Times bestseller list as worried parents reached for a lifeline to help them understand their daughters. "Reviving Ophelia: Saving The Selves Of Adolescent Girls" was published in 1994. And she became convinced that there was something about the changing American culture that was creating a crisis for girls, so she wrote a book about it. As a psychologist, Pipher met with patients and did more research, and she concluded that teenage girls had been overlooked by the field of psychology. More and more of her patients were teenage girls, and they were coming to her with serious issues - eating disorders or the desire to self-harm, alcohol and drug use, harmful sexual experiences, intense conflict with parents - and their parents had no idea how to help. In the early 1990s, therapist Mary Pipher noticed a disturbing trend.
